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THE PERK A LAWN CONSPIRACY THEORY

Tue, 10/11/2005 - 11:20am — john

I WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND TO THE PERK A LAWN CONSPIRACY THEORY.

I WAS MONITORING RADIO TRAFFIC AT THE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT ON THE DAY IN QUESTION AND IT WAS OFFICER BOURLARD WHO HAD THE VEHICLE PULLED OVER AT THE SAID LOCATION THAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT. HE HAD JUST DROPPED OFF A PRISONER AT THE JAIL AND WAS COMING BACK TO BICKNELL WHEN HE GOT BEHIND A VEHICLE THAT HAD NO LICENSE PLATE ON IT, SO HE DID HIS JOB AND PULLED IT OVER.

AS A MATTER OF FACT THE GUY WORKED AT PERK A LAWN AND BECAME BELIGERANT, AND HIS BOSS WALKED OVER TO THE AREA AND ATTEMPTED INTERFERE, BUT LEFT WHEN ADVISED HE COULD FACE GOING TO JAIL FOR OBSTRUCTION OF LAW ENFORCEMENT.

IN CLOSING, I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT I WAS
LISTENNG TO THAT RADIO TRAFFIC AND IT WAS LEGITIMATE AND THE BICKNELL POLICE WASN'T PATROLING PERK A LAWN GARDENS, BUT IN THE FUTURE IF THAT HAPPENS AGAIN, THEY ARE WELL WITHIN THERE RIGHTS TO ENFORCE THE LAWS, EVEN IF THEY AREN'T IN THE CITY LIMITS.

J.VENDES

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Sat, 10/15/2005 - 7:10am — kimberlycannady (not verified)

I am so glad I live in a

I am so glad I live in a city where there are so many people , who know so much. I just think it is a shame to point fingers and assume , befor asking questions.Last I heard that was the best way to become informed.Then if you don't like what you learn , sling some dirt.I believe untill it is changed , and I hope it doesn't , that the Officers have the right to follow persuit outside the City.These guys are out there trying to protect you by up holding the law , not to be your servant.Sounds to me , like this young man was doing his job , and doing it well.The reader who saw this happen , and posted the first response , says they were on their way to Vincennes.I would like them to stop and concider the fact that the person the officer was dealing with could have caused a wreck in which the reader could have been involved in since they were in that area.Is it not a good thing that there was somebody there to prevent this from being worse than it could have been.For a lack of a better term , I find it funny that people don't complain (and they shouldn't) when there is a fire and area Fire Departments come from outside the City  to assist , but they don't want the Bicknell Police Department to assist or uphold the law past the City signs.A Community doesn't stop at the City limits.I would like to close by thanking all area officers City , County and state for protecting my Family , friends and Neighbors. 
Sun, 10/16/2005 - 10:08am — john

 "The reader who saw this

"The reader who saw this happen , and posted the first response , says they were on their way to Vincennes.I would like them to stop and concider the fact that the person the officer was dealing with could have caused a wreck in which the reader could have been involved in since they were in that area."

This comment reminds me of something that happened several years ago when I was riding to work at 3:30 in the morning. We were leaving Oaktown and when we came to Highway 41 the driver came to a quick stop then pulled out onto the highway; we could see miles either direction and could not have been hit no matter if we stopped for one second or ten minutes; anyway I thought that he had stopped but apparently a State Police Officer thought otherwise. The conversation went something like this: "What's wrong officer? You didn't come to a complete stop back there. I stopped. No not completely and you could have been hit by another car traveling down the highway. There's no traffic! I know but if there had been you could have caused a serious accident. If there had been traffic I would have set there until it passed.


He received a ticket that he later beat in court.


There are police officers and there are tax collectors; this State officer was a tax collector.


Whether the guy had a license plate or not has no bearing on traffic accidents simply because a license plate is nothing more than a hidden State tax not an assurance of a qualified driver.


John R. Stanczak

Sun, 10/16/2005 - 4:12pm — kimberlycannady (not verified)

I do realize that just

I do realize that just because there was no plate , doesn't mean there will be an accident . But the first thing that comes to my mind when I see a car or truck traveling on a public road with no plates , is that if the driver is not following the law that says it must be plated , he or she is more than likely not following the one that says they must also have insurance, and also would lead me to wonder what else might be going on in the vehicle or inside the driver's mind.
Sat, 10/15/2005 - 5:27pm — Anonymous (not verified)

The Vincennes Police

According to the police department employee that I spoke to the Vincennes Police Department does not go outside of its city limits. I haven't checked but I will, because I do not believe that many city police departments go outside of their city limits. I'll let you know what I find out.

John R. Stanczak

 

Sun, 10/16/2005 - 4:20pm — kimberlycannady (not verified)

If they don't , I think they

If they don't , I think they should concider it . I do know they can live outside the limits and travel in the City car to and from work.I believe I remember reading that they pay for the cost of the gas theirself .So befor anyone misunderstands what I am saying , I believe it to be a good thing they can live where they want , and I am sure they would stop and assist or detain anyone along the way.
Mon, 10/17/2005 - 12:46am — john

Vincennes told me

According to the Vincennes Police Department spokes person the officers do not take their cars home. The patrolmen use what they call a 24 hour car which means that they all drive the same car for all three shifts. Only the chief and certain high ranking officers have a car of their own to drive .

John R. Stanczak

John R. Stanczak

Tue, 10/18/2005 - 2:19pm — Matt (not verified)

What about the Vincennes

What about the Vincennes officer that lives right here in Bicknell, he has his own car. And so does Ms. Holbrook, she lives in Oaktown and works for the Vincennes PD. She drives her car home. Maybe you should call and ask again.
Tue, 10/18/2005 - 12:02am — Troy Stubbs (not verified)

John, If you believe that

John, If you believe that the Vincennes Police Department does not have take home patrol cars, then I suggest that you drive down by the park explain why there is a police car parked at 5788 N Bicknell Rd. 7 days a week and it has Vincennes Police Department markings on it. I think that the officer that lives there is a Lieutenant. Not exactly high ranking the last time I checked but I could be wrong.
Wed, 10/19/2005 - 8:57am — john

Who are allowed to take their police car home

 The Vincennes Police Department had actually told me that the rank of Lieutenant and above have their own city vehicle but all lower ranked officers share a common patrol vehicle.

The actual subject was that they do not patrol outside of the city limits. 

john Stanczak

Wed, 10/19/2005 - 4:58pm — Matt (not verified)

Is Scepter outside of city

Is Scepter outside of city limits??? No, it's annexed. What about River road, where our drinking water comes from? Is that out of city limits? Yes, that's outside of the city but that's the city drinking water supply, I think that's pretty important to keep and eye on don't you? What about the water plant. That's Technically in the city if you look at the maps. According to the above statements it sounds like at one point in time or another on a shift it is important to go outside of town, right? Scepter pays for police and fire protections by the City of Bicknell. The water plant and the wells are covered by the bicknell fire department, therefore they are covered by the bicknell police department. So there is a reason to be outside of the limits. Police powers do not stop at the city limit sign.
Tue, 10/25/2005 - 8:41am — john

Is Scepter outside of city

 Scepter, pump houses, river road, the water plant are ‘nonsense’ arguments that have little to do with answering a broken window call in Bruceville, two Bicknell patrol cars seen at Denney's in Vincennes at an early morning hour, the bar in Edwardsport, a Bicknell patrol car seen setting most of a day at an out of town ball game, or a Bicknell police car racing down 7th Street in Vincennes with lights blazing.
Checking the pump houses while on patrol is proper; on the other hand setting a speed trap to catch speeders is not that’s the county’s job or the state’s job. The town of Bicknell is paying to have the Bicknell Police protect and patrol Bicknell and the more time the police spend in Bicknell the better.
I am aware that sometimes things happen such as when the police officer was coming back from Vincennes the other day and seen a person driving without a plate and properly pulled him over but it would be improper for a Bicknell patrolman to cruise Highway 67 looking for cars with no license plate.

John R. Stanczak